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Antiguo 25-11-2008, 18:16:41   #1
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Predeterminado focos traseros norma ECE R38??

Alguien sabe q norma es esa o como es aplicada en los focos de los automobiles,
se restringirá el consumo?
la luminocidad?
el tipo de iluminación?
los colores?
la materialidad?
etc.
Para el Dakar piden q los focos traseros superiores q van a raz de techo tienen q cumplir la norma de Certificación Europea E Mark (ECE)

el auto de Eliseo tiene luces LED, la camioneta de Briones no me fijé,
los demás no se si están con luces...
Thanks! ...again!!
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Antiguo 25-11-2008, 19:00:32   #2
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Predeterminado Re: focos traseros norma ECE R38??

al parecer esa norma se refiere a las luces traseras
R38 — Rear fog lamps
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uks...1796_en_16.htm

pero no tiene mayores especificaciones
solo q es ECE cualquier foco q sea aprobado para venderse en CE
solo hacen incapié en las posiciones de los focos
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Antiguo 25-11-2008, 19:02:04   #3
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List of ECE Regulations

As of 2007[update], there are 123 ECE Regulations. Most regulations cover a single vehicle component or technology. A partial list of current regulations applying to passenger cars follows (different regulations may apply to heavy vehicles, motorcycles etc).

[edit] General lighting

* R3 — Retroreflecting devices
* R4 — Illumination of rear registration plates
* R6 — Direction indicators
* R7 — Front and rear position lamps, stop lamps and end-outline marker lamps
* R19 — Front fog lamps
* R23 — Reversing lights
* R37 — Filament lamps (bulbs)
* R38 — Rear fog lamps
* R48 — Installation of lighting and light-signalling devices
* R77 — Parking lamps
* R87 — Daytime running lamps
* R91 — Sidemarker lamps
* R119 — Cornering lamps
* R123 — AFS lamps
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REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO OBLIGATORY REAR FOG LAMPS AND TO OPTIONAL REAR FOG LAMPS TO THE EXTENT SPECIFIED IN PART II



1. Number:
One

2. Position-
(a) Longitudinal:

At or near the rear of the vehicle

(b) Lateral-

(i) Where one rear fog lamp is fitted:
On the centre-line or off side of the vehicle (disregarding any sidecar forming part of a motor bicycle combination)

(ii) Where two lamps are fitted:
No requirement

(c) Vertical-

(i) Maximum height above the ground-

(A) Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B):
1000 mm

(B) An agricultural vehicle, engineering plant and a motor tractor:
2100 mm

(ii) Minimum height above the ground:
250 mm

(d) Minimum separation distance between a rear fog lamp and a stop lamp-

(i) In the case of a rear fog lamp which does not share a common lamp body with a stop lamp:
A distance of 100 mm between the light-emitting surfaces of the lamps when viewed in a direction parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle

(ii) In the case of a rear fog lamp which shares a common lamp body with a stop lamp:
100 mm

3. Angles of visibility-
(a) Horizontal:

25° inwards and outwards. However, where two rear fog lamps are fitted it shall suffice if throughout the sector so defined at least one lamp (but not necessarily the same lamp) is visible

(b) Vertical:
5° above and below the horizontal

4. Alignment:

To the rear

5. Markings:

An approval mark

6. Size of illuminated area:

No requirement

7. Colour:

Red

8. Wattage:

No requirement

9. Intensity:

No requirement

10. Electrical connections:

No rear fog lamp shall be fitted to any vehicle so that it can be illuminated by the application of any braking system on the vehicle

11. Tell-tale:

A circuit-closed tell-tale shall be fitted
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12. Other requirements-
Where two rear fog lamps are fitted to a motor vehicle first used on or after 1st April 1986 or to a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985 they shall form a matched pair.

13. Definitions-
In this Schedule "approval mark" means either-
(a) a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 5 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 20 of Schedule 4 to those Regulations; or

(b) a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 38 of Schedule 2 to those Regulations.


PART II

REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO OPTIONAL REAR FOG LAMPS

1. In the case of a motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1980 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1979, any number may be fitted and the only requirements prescribed by these Regulations in respect of any which are fitted are those specified in paragraphs 2(d), 7 and 10 of Part I.

2. In the case of a motor vehicle first used on or after 1st April 1980 and any other vehicle manufactured on or after 1st October 1979, not more than two may be fitted and the requirements prescribed by these Regulations in respect of any which are fitted are all those specified in this Schedule.
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3. Angles of visibility-
(a) A motor vehicle first used on or after 1st January 1971 and a trailer manufactured on or after that date-

(i) Horizontal:

45° to the left and to the right

(ii) Vertical-

(A) Except in a case specified in sub-paragraph (B) or (C):

15° above and below the horizontal

(B) Where the highest part of the illuminated area of the lamp is less than 1500 mm above the ground:

15° above and 10° below the horizontal

(C) Where the highest part of the illuminated area of the lamp is less than 750 mm above the ground:

15° above and 5° below the horizontal
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Colour:
Red

8. Wattage-
(a) A stop lamp fitted to a motor vehicle first used before 1st January 1971 or a trailer manufactured before that date and a stop lamp bearing an approval mark:

No requirement

(b) Any other stop lamp:
15 to 36 watts

9. Intensity:
No requirement

10. Electrical connections-

(a) Every stop lamp fitted to-

(i) a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination first used on or after 1st April 1986 shall be operated by the application of every service brake control provided for the use of the rider;
(ii) any other motor vehicle, shall be operated by the application of the service braking system.
(b) Every stop lamp fitted to a trailer drawn by a motor vehicle shall be operated by the application of the service braking system of that motor vehicle.

11. Tell-tale:
No requirement

12. Other requirements-
Where two stop lamps are required to be fitted, they shall form a pair.

13. Definitions-
In this Schedule "approval mark" means-
(a) in relation to a solo motor bicycle, a motor bicycle combination or a trailer drawn by a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination, a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 50A of Schedule 2 to those Regulations; and

(b) in relation to any other vehicle, either-

(i) a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 5 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 7 or, if combined with a rear position lamp, at item 8 of Schedule 4 to those Regulations; or
(ii) a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 7B or, if combined with a rear position lamp, at item 7C of Schedule 2 to those Regulations.


PART II

RREQUIREMENTS RELATING TO OPTIONAL STOP LAMPS

Any number may be fitted, and the requirements prescribed by these Regulations in respect of any which are fitted are all those specified in Part I except-

(a) those specified in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3; and

(b) in the case of a stop lamp fitted to a pedal cycle, those specified in paragraphs 5 and 8; and

(c) in the case of a stop lamp fitted to a motor vehicle not being a motor bicycle, first used on or after 1st April 1991 either centrally or in such a manner as to project light through the rear window the intensity of the light emitted to the rear of the vehicle shall be not less than 20 candelas and not more than 60 candelas when measured from directly behind the centre of the lamp in a direction parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.
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Predeterminado Re: focos traseros norma ECE R38??

Podriamos decir , q cualquier foco, instalado en ciertos parámetros de altura, ancho grados de inclinación, y en el caso de los frenos ciertos watts y la graduacIón de intencidad medidas en "CANDELAS".

lo demás es bla bla
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buen monologo pato...


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buen monologo pato...


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Pato... yo estoy averiguando de un listado de marca de focos que acepta FIA.
lo que sabia del año pasado, es que los de marca HELLA... son aceptados.
sigo averiguando.... y avizo apenas sepa algo.
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