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aealcail 01-12-2006 11:25:36

bogger , TSL, IROK
 
estoy cambiando los neumas del inombrable

tengo mudzilla 35:

cual seria mejor relacion precio calidad.

quiero algo power para el barro pero que tambien me sirva un poco para ir a tontear a las dunas, con buena aderencia lateral

he recibido ecelentes comentarios de los irok y de los tsl me complica un poco el peso

la idea es 36x14,5 r15


todos los comentarios son bien venidos.


Atte
Edaurdo Alcaino

Zorro 01-12-2006 11:41:14

BOGGER:wink:

Sr.sj410 01-12-2006 11:52:51

Irok, es filete ese neuamtico

HAKUNA 01-12-2006 12:10:55

irok... la cagán

OSO LARRAIN 01-12-2006 12:27:48

Bogger...

Fantasma-4x4 01-12-2006 12:36:07

Uhmm...van a empate! :lol:


Bye.


EABO

Rudy González 01-12-2006 12:40:38

Este sera un poco mas liviano en peso y precio tsl 36X12.50-15 $ 173.561.

G Pereira 01-12-2006 12:42:46

Costo Beneficio Irok, no lo he probado en arena pero es 1000 veces mas blando que un bogger, en barro andan super bien

Si eres barrero a mango, BOGGER

The Black Bull 01-12-2006 12:49:25

pesos de neumas
 
Aqui tienes las medidas y pesos en lbs de cada neuma desde 36 para arriba

Aunque para jugosear me tincan mas los Irok's jejeje;)
SALUDOS
Daniel Roa
36’s
Super Swamper Radial---------36x12.50R15 (6ply)-----64.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x14.50R15 (6ply)-----79.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x12.50R16 (10ply)----70.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x14.50R16 (10ply)----84.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x14.50R16.5 (10ply)--84.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----36x12.50R15 (8ply)-----65.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----13/36-16 (6ply)--------67.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----36x12.5R16.5 (8ply)----66.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------36x12.50R15 (6ply)----78.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------36x12.50R16.5 (6ply)--74.00 lbs


37’s
BF Goodrich M/T---------------37x12.50R17-----------69.72 lbs
Goodyear MT/R-----------------37x12.50R15-----------74.20 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw---37x13.50R15-----------87.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw---37x13.50R17-----------85.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw-----37x13.50R15-----------80.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw-----37x13.50R16-----------81.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw-----37x13.50R16.5---------77.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37x13.00R15 (6ply)----84.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37x13.00R16 (6ply)----83.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37x13.00R16.5 (6ply)--82.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37X13.00R16.5 (8 ply)-85.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37X13.00R17 (6ply)----85.00 lbs


38’s
Super Swamper Radial---------38x15.50R16.5 (10ply)----95.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------38x15.50R15 (6ply)-------89.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----38x12.50R15 (6ply)-------71.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----16/38.5-15 (6ply)--------90.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----13/38-16 (6ply)----------69.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----38x12.5R16.5 (6ply)------73.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----16/38.5-16.5 (6ply)------89.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38x12.50R15 (6ply)------85.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38.5x14.50R15 (6ply)----89.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38x12.50R16.5 (6ply)----83.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38x12.50R16.5 (10ply)---85.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38.5x14.50R16.5 (6ply)--93.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------38.5x11.00R15 (6ply)----74.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------38.5x11.00R16 (6ply)----72.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------38.5x11.00R16.5 (6ply)--69.00 lbs


39’s
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/39.5-15 (6ply)-------96.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/39.5-16.5 (6ply)-----92.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/39.5-16.5 (6ply)-----98.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------18/39.5-15 (6ply)------110.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------18/39.5-16.5 (6ply)----109.00 lbs

42’s
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/42-15 (6ply)--------106.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/42-16.5 (10ply)-----104.00 lbs


44’s
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----18.5/44-15LT(6ply)-----122.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----18.5/44-16.5LT(6ply)---121.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------19.5/44-15LT(6ply)----142.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------19.5/44-16.5L(6ply)----146.00 lbs


Super Swamper IROK - Composite, Tubeless, Bias

Size Weight

36/13.5/15 66 lbs
39.5/13.5/15 76 lbs
36/13.5/16 66 lbs
39.5/13.5/16 85 lbs
36/13.5/16.5 66 lbs
39.5/13.5/16.5 85 lbs
49/21.00/16.5 159 lbs
36/13.5/17 64 lbs
39.5/13.5/17 84 lbs
49/21.00/17 167 lbs
36/13.5/20 62 lbs
39.5/13.5/20 72 lbs
49/21.00/20 170 lbs

Super Swamper TSL - Nylon, Tubeless, Bias

33/12.5/15LT 60 lbs
35/15.00/15LT 81 lbs
36/12.5/15LT 65 lbs
38/12.5/15LT 70 lbs
38.5/16.00/15LT 90 lbs
39.5/15.00/15LT 94 lbs
42/15.00/15LT 104 lbs
44/18.5/15LT 121 lbs
33/13.00/16LT 62 lbs
36/13.00/16LT 67 lbs
38/13.00/16LT 73 lbs
33/12.50/16.5LT 60 lbs
35/15.00/16.5LT 76 lbs
36/12.5/16.5LT 66 lbs
38/12.5/16.5LT 73 lbs
38.5/16.00/16.5LT 89 lbs
39.5/15.00/16.5LT 92 lbs
42/15.00/16.5LT 102 lbs
44/18.5/16.5LT 120 lbs
39.5/15.00/17LT 92 lbs

Super Swamper TSL/SX - Steel Belted, Nylon, Tubeless, Bias

33/15.5/15LT 69 lbs
35/15.5/15LT 86 lbs
36/12.5/15LT 78 lbs
38/12.5/15LT 84 lbs
38.5/14.5/15LT 89 lbs


Super Swamper TSL/Bogger - Nylon, Tubeless, Bias

33/12.5/15LT 64 lbs
33/14.00/15LT 71 lbs
35/14.5/15LT 74 lbs
35/16.00/15LT 85 lbs
37/13.00/15LT 84 lbs
38.5/11.00/15LT 71 lbs
39.5/18.00/15LT 114 lbs
44/19.5/15LT 141 lbs
33/12.5/16LT 64 lbs
33/14.00/16LT 68 lbs
35/14.5/16LT 75 lbs
35/16.00/16LT 83 lbs
37/13.00/16LT 83 lbs
38.5/11.00/16LT 70 lbs
33/14.00/16.5LT 62 lbs
35/14.5/16.5LT 76 lbs
35/16.00/16.5LT 85 lbs
37/13.00/16.5LT 84 lbs
38.5/11.00/16.5LT 70 lbs
39.5/18.00/16.5LT 116 lbs
44/19.5/16.5LT 145 lbs
37/13.00/17LT 85 lbs__________________

Pato Leguía 02-12-2006 15:08:55

Cita:

Empezado por The Black Bull
Aqui tienes las medidas y pesos en lbs de cada neuma desde 36 para arriba

Aunque para jugosear me tincan mas los Irok's jejeje;)
SALUDOS
Daniel Roa
36’s
Super Swamper Radial---------36x12.50R15 (6ply)-----64.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x14.50R15 (6ply)-----79.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x12.50R16 (10ply)----70.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x14.50R16 (10ply)----84.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------36x14.50R16.5 (10ply)--84.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----36x12.50R15 (8ply)-----65.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----13/36-16 (6ply)--------67.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----36x12.5R16.5 (8ply)----66.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------36x12.50R15 (6ply)----78.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------36x12.50R16.5 (6ply)--74.00 lbs


37’s
BF Goodrich M/T---------------37x12.50R17-----------69.72 lbs
Goodyear MT/R-----------------37x12.50R15-----------74.20 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw---37x13.50R15-----------87.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Radial Claw---37x13.50R17-----------85.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw-----37x13.50R15-----------80.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw-----37x13.50R16-----------81.00 lbs
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw-----37x13.50R16.5---------77.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37x13.00R15 (6ply)----84.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37x13.00R16 (6ply)----83.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37x13.00R16.5 (6ply)--82.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37X13.00R16.5 (8 ply)-85.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger----------37X13.00R17 (6ply)----85.00 lbs


38’s
Super Swamper Radial---------38x15.50R16.5 (10ply)----95.00 lbs
Super Swamper Radial---------38x15.50R15 (6ply)-------89.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----38x12.50R15 (6ply)-------71.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----16/38.5-15 (6ply)--------90.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----13/38-16 (6ply)----------69.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----38x12.5R16.5 (6ply)------73.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----16/38.5-16.5 (6ply)------89.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38x12.50R15 (6ply)------85.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38.5x14.50R15 (6ply)----89.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38x12.50R16.5 (6ply)----83.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38x12.50R16.5 (10ply)---85.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL/SX---------38.5x14.50R16.5 (6ply)--93.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------38.5x11.00R15 (6ply)----74.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------38.5x11.00R16 (6ply)----72.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------38.5x11.00R16.5 (6ply)--69.00 lbs


39’s
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/39.5-15 (6ply)-------96.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/39.5-16.5 (6ply)-----92.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/39.5-16.5 (6ply)-----98.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------18/39.5-15 (6ply)------110.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------18/39.5-16.5 (6ply)----109.00 lbs

42’s
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/42-15 (6ply)--------106.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----15/42-16.5 (10ply)-----104.00 lbs


44’s
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----18.5/44-15LT(6ply)-----122.00 lbs
Super Swamper TSL (bias)-----18.5/44-16.5LT(6ply)---121.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------19.5/44-15LT(6ply)----142.00 lbs
Super Swamper Bogger---------19.5/44-16.5L(6ply)----146.00 lbs


Super Swamper IROK - Composite, Tubeless, Bias

Size Weight

36/13.5/15 66 lbs
39.5/13.5/15 76 lbs
36/13.5/16 66 lbs
39.5/13.5/16 85 lbs
36/13.5/16.5 66 lbs
39.5/13.5/16.5 85 lbs
49/21.00/16.5 159 lbs
36/13.5/17 64 lbs
39.5/13.5/17 84 lbs
49/21.00/17 167 lbs
36/13.5/20 62 lbs
39.5/13.5/20 72 lbs
49/21.00/20 170 lbs

Super Swamper TSL - Nylon, Tubeless, Bias

33/12.5/15LT 60 lbs
35/15.00/15LT 81 lbs
36/12.5/15LT 65 lbs
38/12.5/15LT 70 lbs
38.5/16.00/15LT 90 lbs
39.5/15.00/15LT 94 lbs
42/15.00/15LT 104 lbs
44/18.5/15LT 121 lbs
33/13.00/16LT 62 lbs
36/13.00/16LT 67 lbs
38/13.00/16LT 73 lbs
33/12.50/16.5LT 60 lbs
35/15.00/16.5LT 76 lbs
36/12.5/16.5LT 66 lbs
38/12.5/16.5LT 73 lbs
38.5/16.00/16.5LT 89 lbs
39.5/15.00/16.5LT 92 lbs
42/15.00/16.5LT 102 lbs
44/18.5/16.5LT 120 lbs
39.5/15.00/17LT 92 lbs

Super Swamper TSL/SX - Steel Belted, Nylon, Tubeless, Bias

33/15.5/15LT 69 lbs
35/15.5/15LT 86 lbs
36/12.5/15LT 78 lbs
38/12.5/15LT 84 lbs
38.5/14.5/15LT 89 lbs


Super Swamper TSL/Bogger - Nylon, Tubeless, Bias

33/12.5/15LT 64 lbs
33/14.00/15LT 71 lbs
35/14.5/15LT 74 lbs
35/16.00/15LT 85 lbs
37/13.00/15LT 84 lbs
38.5/11.00/15LT 71 lbs
39.5/18.00/15LT 114 lbs
44/19.5/15LT 141 lbs
33/12.5/16LT 64 lbs
33/14.00/16LT 68 lbs
35/14.5/16LT 75 lbs
35/16.00/16LT 83 lbs
37/13.00/16LT 83 lbs
38.5/11.00/16LT 70 lbs
33/14.00/16.5LT 62 lbs
35/14.5/16.5LT 76 lbs
35/16.00/16.5LT 85 lbs
37/13.00/16.5LT 84 lbs
38.5/11.00/16.5LT 70 lbs
39.5/18.00/16.5LT 116 lbs
44/19.5/16.5LT 145 lbs
37/13.00/17LT 85 lbs__________________


Daniel,
He escuchado maravillas de los Iroks en los foros gringos...

gracias

Pato

ProTaper 02-12-2006 19:39:18

Boggers...Filete en Barro....y en arena "andan". y del Look..na que decir....

VSilva 02-12-2006 21:14:24

Segun mi experiencia,

Bogger : Muy bueno para el barro , siempre y cuando sea plano, si hay pendientes laterales no me gustan mucho, , en grietas lo mismo se agarra bien pero tiende a caerse en las grietas , en arena ni idea

Tsl : Bueno en barro , lejos mejor que cualquier otro mt convencional , buen agarre lateral , en grietas la raja , Pesado.

Irok : Ahora es mi favorito , tiene para mi gusto lo mejor de ambos arriba , se limpia muy bien en barro , en grietas se agarra mucho, y por la forma me imagino que debe tener buena flotacion (arena) ademas de ser mas liviano y barato.

FLOZANO 02-12-2006 21:25:21

Cumpa
Yo no pensaria en booger con sus yugos y motor, no creo que los muevas.
Como te dije antes Irok es la opcion, es mas liviano, menos posibilidades de romper y mas barato.
Yo tube TSL Radial 36x14.5 y es bien pesadito, pero es blando comparado con el mudzilla que le sacas todo el aire y sigue paradito.

H3NDRIX 02-12-2006 21:35:19

y como serán los TrXus Mud Terrain?

Agustin CJ7 04-12-2006 09:38:31

Trxus son una MT, nada comparable a las otras SS.

Las Irok´s no son mas livianas que las TSL. Incluso ahi estan posteados los pesos, las TSL pesan 2 lbs menos que sus similares en Irok.

En mi experiencia, las TSL son mejores en barro que las Irok, y tiene un mayor tamaño de los lugs laterales, que ayudan con el agarre en situaciones dificiles.
En grietas no tengo conocimiento.

Las bogger necesitan velocidad para que se limpien, o sea, bastantes HP´s para que cumplan su funcion. Ahora, si se logra esa combinacion, son lejos las mejores del grupo para barro. Estabilidad lateral se puede mejorar con grooving. Si son mas pesadas.

aealcail 05-12-2006 08:43:12

bueno na que decir.

despues de hablar con mi compadre lozano me oriento y me compro irok.

ya que el whon vay a romper todo si ponis booger, ponte los irok, asi es que decidido son irok.

muchisimas gracias.

Gonzalo Bravo 05-12-2006 10:23:00

Con el Irok andaras un poco menos mal que con los Bogger en la arena, y la gracia de los Iroks aparte de andar bien, es que son mas baratos.=

zaikko 06-12-2006 15:53:22

Cita:

Empezado por Gonzalo Bravo
Con el Irok andaras un poco menos mal que con los Bogger en la arena, y la gracia de los Iroks aparte de andar bien, es que son mas baratos.=

cuanto salen mas menos unos iroks 36" aro 15 radial.. puesto en chilito?
alguna empresa que los importe???


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