diferencia de peso cherokee 5 ptas y 3 ptas

giorgio_crx · 26-01-2007, 20:39:17

wenas, una pregunta es mucho el peso de diferencia q tiene el cherokee 5 ptas con el de 3 ptas ??

es por el peso q elgen cherokee 3 ptas para jepeear??

q desventaja tiene el cherokee 5 ptas al de 3 ptas ??

Pato Leguía · 26-01-2007, 21:14:48

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Empezado por giorgio_crx

wenas, una pregunta es mucho el peso de diferencia q tiene el cherokee 5 ptas con el de 3 ptas ??

es por el peso q elgen cherokee 3 ptas para jepeear??

q desventaja tiene el cherokee 5 ptas al de 3 ptas ??

La verdad no sé....pero definitivamente debería ser marginal. Personalmente prefiero la 4 ptas. lejos! mucho mas comoda para llevar pasajeros, y para acceder a lo que guardes en el interior facilmente.
Saludos!
Pato

IsHA · 26-01-2007, 21:43:30

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Empezado por PatoV6

La verdad no sé....pero definitivamente debería ser marginal. Personalmente prefiero la 4 ptas. lejos! mucho mas comoda para llevar pasajeros, y para acceder a lo que guardes en el interior facilmente.
Saludos!
Pato

en cierta oportunidad los pese y era minima, lo de 4 puertas es impagable.
saludos
jav

Oscar XJ · 28-01-2007, 16:25:03

El De 5 Puertas Deberia Estar Aprox. Por Los 1700kg.

giorgio_crx · 28-01-2007, 16:43:58

y el de 3???

Pato Leguía · 28-01-2007, 20:50:04

Viejo....ni te preocupes...las diferencias son MINIMAS...acá te paso información completísima de los cherokees:

Jeep Cherokee (XJ) Stock Specifications

All XJs were built as a "Unibody"…meaning that the body and frame rails not just tied together, they are one piece, as opposed to a frame with the body mounted to it (like Wranglers are). All XJ's have solid axles in the front and in the rear. The suspension consists of coil springs up front and leaf springs in the rear. All XJ's came with disc brakes in the front and drums in the rear.

Dimensions
(There may be small differences, dependent upon trim level and/or optional equipment)

Wheelbase = 101.4"
Overall length = 165.3" - 168.8"
Overall width = 67.9" - 70.5"
Track = 58"
Height = 64" (with roof rack 66.8")
Ground clearance from differentials = 7.3" (Upcountry = 8.3")
Approach angle = 37.6º - 38º
Departure angle = 31º - 32.1º
Breakover angle = 21º - 21.9º
Curb weight 2wd = 2,891 lbs - 2,993 lbs
Curb weight 4wd = 3,057 lbs - 3,386 lbs
Cargo capacity = 71.0 cu ft.

Body
The body comes in both 2-door and 4-door styles with a rear hatch (liftgate).

In 94 side-impact beams were added to the doors and roof was strengthened. The 3rd brakelight was added to the top of the liftgate as well.

In 96 the body structure was strengthened some...it was not noticeable in overall appearance.

In 97 the body and interior were redesigned. Most noticeably it gave the body smoother lines by changing the bumpers, flares, and moldings. The front fender was trimmed just below the headlights and replaced with plastic bumper endcaps that wrap around to the wheel well. The windshield washer bottle was relocated to the inside of the drivers side front fender and the liftgate was also changed from fiberglass to sheet metal.

Engines
2.5L I4 carburated - 105 hp @ 5000 rpm, 132 ft lb torque @ 2800 rpm - used in 84-85 models
2.5L I4 TBI (fuel injected) - 117 hp @ 5000 rpm, 135 ftlb @ 3500 rpm - used in 86 and updated in 87-90 to 121hp
2.5L I4 MPI (multi-port injection) - 130 hp @ 5250 rpm, 139 ft lb @ 3250 rpm - used in 91-00
GM 2.8L V6 - 115 hp @ 4800 rpm, 145 ft lb @ 2400 rpm - used in 84-86
Renault 2.1L 4cyl. Turbo Diesel - 85 hp @ 3750 rpm, 132 ft lb @ 2750 rpm - used in 85-87
Italian VM 2.5L Turbo Diesel - 140 hp, 236 ft lb torque - used in overseas XJs
4.0L I6 EFI "Power Tech" - 177 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4000 rpm - used 87-90
4.0L I6 MPI "Power Tech HO" (High Output) - 190 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4,000 rpm - used in 91-95 and updated in 96-01 to 225 ft lb torque @ 3000 rpm (00-01 models use a distributorless ignition system)

Transmissions
Manual Transmissions

AX4 - 4 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used 84-86 with 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 engines
T4 & T5 - 4 & 5 speed manual - manufactured by Borg Warner - used 84-86 with 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 engines
BA10/5 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Peugot - used only up to 89
AX5 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used with 2.8L V6 and 87+ with 2.5L I4
AX15 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used with 4.0L I6 engines
NV3550 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by New Venture - used in 00-01 in SE models with 4.0L I6 engines

Automatic Transmissions

Torqueflight 904 - 3 speed automatic - used 84-86 with 2.8L V6 and 2.5L I4 engines
30RH - 3 speed automatic - used with 2.5L I4 engine 94?-00
AW4 - 4 speed automatic, electronically controlled - manufactured by Aisin - used from 87-01 (87-91 models include a Power/Comfort button that adjusts the shift points)

Transfer Cases
All the transfer cases used are all chain driven with aluminum housings. T-cases were designated either NP or NV. They are essentially the same t-case...just a different "brand name" (NP was used for the purposes of this list:

NP ="New Process"
NV = "New Venture"

NP207 - "Command-Trac" part-time only - 2.61:1 ratio low range - used 84-87
NP231 - "Command-Trac" part-time only - 2.72:1 ratio low range - shift pattern 2H - 4H - N - 4L - used 87-01
NP228/NP229 - "Selec-Trac" - 4Hi(full-time) - N - 4Lo (part-time) - used 84-87
NP242 - "Selec-Trac" part-time OR full-time - 2.72:1 ratio low range - shift pattern 2wd - 4part-time - 4full-time - N - 4LO - used 87-01

Driveshafts

Front Driveshaft - On 84-87 XJs (NP207 t-case) the front shaft is a "GKN" style shaft. On 87-01 XJs (NP231/242 t-case) the front is a "double cardan" two-piece driveshaft with a CV joint at the transfer case end.

Rear Driveshaft - The rear is a one-piece shaft with standard u-joints at both ends. The slip yoke is located on the output shaft of the transfer case. On 84-95 models, the yoke slides in and out of the transfer case and is lubricated by the ATF fluid internally. On 96-01 due to a design change, the slip yoke is external (does not slide in and out of the transfer case). This slip yoke is covered with a rubber boot.

Axles

Front Axles

Dana 30 high pinion - reverse cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear - used 84-99 (some axles through 91 are vacuum disconnect, 92+ are non-disconnect, 89-95 with ABS have 5-297x u-joints, all 95+ have 5-297x u-joints, all others have 5-260x u-joints)

Dana 30 low pinion - standard cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear, 5-297x u-joints - used 00-01

Rear Axles

Dana 35 non c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 84-89
Dana 35 c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 90-01
Chrysler 8.25 - 27 spline, 1.17" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 91-96
Chrysler 8.25 - 29 spline, 1.21" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 97-01
Dana 44 non c-clip - 30 spline, 1.31" diameter shafts, 8.5" ring gear, 2.75" axle tube - used 87-89 on some (not all) XJs equipped with towing package.

Note: Dana 35 axles sometimes referred to as Dana 35C - The "C" does not stand for c-clip. It stands for "custom" meaning it came from Dana unfinished.

Note: 8.25 axles - none of these axles were used on XJ's with ABS brakes. If you have ABS, you have the Dana 35. Without ABS you could have either axle. 8.25 axles are c-clip.

Gearing
3.07 - used with 4.0L engine / manual transmission
3.31 - only available on older (pre87?) 2 door XJs with "Fuel Economy" package
3.55 - used with 4.0L engine / automatic transmission
3.73 - found in some XJs with the towing package
4.10 - used with 2.5L engine usually, and older XJs with the "Off-Highway Vehicle" package.

Cooling Systems
Open style - any normal cooling system used today. Opposite of closed style described below.

Closed style - has no radiator cap and utilizes a pressure bottle. This style cooling system was used in 87-90 XJs.

Airbags
Drivers side airbag (mechanical) was added in 1995.
Passenger side airbag was added in 1997. Airbags changed from mechanical to electronic in this year also.

Production Numbers
Number of XJ's built in given year:

1984 - 93,326
1985 - 120,328
1986 - 107,225
1987 - 139,295
1988 - 187,136
1989 - 207,216
1990 - 151,230
1991 - 151,578
1992 - 137,826
1993 - 144,961
1994 - 123,391
1995 - 120,234
1996 - 286,463
1997 - 258,958
1998 - 182,845
1999 - 186,116
2000 - 165,590
2001 - 120,454

Total = 2,884,172

Trim Levels
84 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief
85 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo
86 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo
87 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited
88 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
89 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
90 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
91 - Base, Briarwood, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
92 - Base, Briarwood, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
93 - Base, Sport, Country
94 - SE, Sport, Country
95 - SE, Sport, Country
96 - SE, Sport, Country, Classic
97 - SE, Sport, Country
98 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited
99 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited
00 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited, Freedom
01 - Sport, Limited, 60th Anniversary Edition

:p :p :p

giorgio_crx · 29-01-2007, 09:45:06

vale wn se agradece !!!!!!

26-01-2007, 20:39:17	#1
giorgio_crx Junior Member Newbie Fecha de Ingreso: Sep 2006 Edad: 38 Mensajes: 12	diferencia de peso cherokee 5 ptas y 3 ptas wenas, una pregunta es mucho el peso de diferencia q tiene el cherokee 5 ptas con el de 3 ptas ?? es por el peso q elgen cherokee 3 ptas para jepeear?? q desventaja tiene el cherokee 5 ptas al de 3 ptas ??

29-01-2007, 09:45:06	#7
giorgio_crx Junior Member Newbie Fecha de Ingreso: Sep 2006 Edad: 38 Mensajes: 12	vale vale wn se agradece !!!!!!

28-01-2007, 16:25:03	#4
Oscar XJ Member Top 100 Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2006 Ubicación: ANTOFAGASTA Edad: 44 Mensajes: 499	El De 5 Puertas Deberia Estar Aprox. Por Los 1700kg.

28-01-2007, 16:43:58	#5
giorgio_crx Junior Member Newbie Fecha de Ingreso: Sep 2006 Edad: 38 Mensajes: 12	y el de 3???

28-01-2007, 20:50:04	#6
Pato Leguía Senior Member Top 5000 Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2003 Ubicación: Vitacura, Santiago Edad: 52 Mensajes: 6.682	Viejo....ni te preocupes...las diferencias son MINIMAS...acá te paso información completísima de los cherokees: Jeep Cherokee (XJ) Stock Specifications All XJs were built as a "Unibody"…meaning that the body and frame rails not just tied together, they are one piece, as opposed to a frame with the body mounted to it (like Wranglers are). All XJ's have solid axles in the front and in the rear. The suspension consists of coil springs up front and leaf springs in the rear. All XJ's came with disc brakes in the front and drums in the rear. Dimensions (There may be small differences, dependent upon trim level and/or optional equipment) Wheelbase = 101.4" Overall length = 165.3" - 168.8" Overall width = 67.9" - 70.5" Track = 58" Height = 64" (with roof rack 66.8") Ground clearance from differentials = 7.3" (Upcountry = 8.3") Approach angle = 37.6º - 38º Departure angle = 31º - 32.1º Breakover angle = 21º - 21.9º Curb weight 2wd = 2,891 lbs - 2,993 lbs Curb weight 4wd = 3,057 lbs - 3,386 lbs Cargo capacity = 71.0 cu ft. Body The body comes in both 2-door and 4-door styles with a rear hatch (liftgate). In 94 side-impact beams were added to the doors and roof was strengthened. The 3rd brakelight was added to the top of the liftgate as well. In 96 the body structure was strengthened some...it was not noticeable in overall appearance. In 97 the body and interior were redesigned. Most noticeably it gave the body smoother lines by changing the bumpers, flares, and moldings. The front fender was trimmed just below the headlights and replaced with plastic bumper endcaps that wrap around to the wheel well. The windshield washer bottle was relocated to the inside of the drivers side front fender and the liftgate was also changed from fiberglass to sheet metal. Engines 2.5L I4 carburated - 105 hp @ 5000 rpm, 132 ft lb torque @ 2800 rpm - used in 84-85 models 2.5L I4 TBI (fuel injected) - 117 hp @ 5000 rpm, 135 ftlb @ 3500 rpm - used in 86 and updated in 87-90 to 121hp 2.5L I4 MPI (multi-port injection) - 130 hp @ 5250 rpm, 139 ft lb @ 3250 rpm - used in 91-00 GM 2.8L V6 - 115 hp @ 4800 rpm, 145 ft lb @ 2400 rpm - used in 84-86 Renault 2.1L 4cyl. Turbo Diesel - 85 hp @ 3750 rpm, 132 ft lb @ 2750 rpm - used in 85-87 Italian VM 2.5L Turbo Diesel - 140 hp, 236 ft lb torque - used in overseas XJs 4.0L I6 EFI "Power Tech" - 177 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4000 rpm - used 87-90 4.0L I6 MPI "Power Tech HO" (High Output) - 190 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4,000 rpm - used in 91-95 and updated in 96-01 to 225 ft lb torque @ 3000 rpm (00-01 models use a distributorless ignition system) Transmissions Manual Transmissions AX4 - 4 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used 84-86 with 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 engines T4 & T5 - 4 & 5 speed manual - manufactured by Borg Warner - used 84-86 with 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 engines BA10/5 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Peugot - used only up to 89 AX5 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used with 2.8L V6 and 87+ with 2.5L I4 AX15 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used with 4.0L I6 engines NV3550 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by New Venture - used in 00-01 in SE models with 4.0L I6 engines Automatic Transmissions Torqueflight 904 - 3 speed automatic - used 84-86 with 2.8L V6 and 2.5L I4 engines 30RH - 3 speed automatic - used with 2.5L I4 engine 94?-00 AW4 - 4 speed automatic, electronically controlled - manufactured by Aisin - used from 87-01 (87-91 models include a Power/Comfort button that adjusts the shift points) Transfer Cases All the transfer cases used are all chain driven with aluminum housings. T-cases were designated either NP or NV. They are essentially the same t-case...just a different "brand name" (NP was used for the purposes of this list: NP ="New Process" NV = "New Venture" NP207 - "Command-Trac" part-time only - 2.61:1 ratio low range - used 84-87 NP231 - "Command-Trac" part-time only - 2.72:1 ratio low range - shift pattern 2H - 4H - N - 4L - used 87-01 NP228/NP229 - "Selec-Trac" - 4Hi(full-time) - N - 4Lo (part-time) - used 84-87 NP242 - "Selec-Trac" part-time OR full-time - 2.72:1 ratio low range - shift pattern 2wd - 4part-time - 4full-time - N - 4LO - used 87-01 Driveshafts Front Driveshaft - On 84-87 XJs (NP207 t-case) the front shaft is a "GKN" style shaft. On 87-01 XJs (NP231/242 t-case) the front is a "double cardan" two-piece driveshaft with a CV joint at the transfer case end. Rear Driveshaft - The rear is a one-piece shaft with standard u-joints at both ends. The slip yoke is located on the output shaft of the transfer case. On 84-95 models, the yoke slides in and out of the transfer case and is lubricated by the ATF fluid internally. On 96-01 due to a design change, the slip yoke is external (does not slide in and out of the transfer case). This slip yoke is covered with a rubber boot. Axles Front Axles Dana 30 high pinion - reverse cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear - used 84-99 (some axles through 91 are vacuum disconnect, 92+ are non-disconnect, 89-95 with ABS have 5-297x u-joints, all 95+ have 5-297x u-joints, all others have 5-260x u-joints) Dana 30 low pinion - standard cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear, 5-297x u-joints - used 00-01 Rear Axles Dana 35 non c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 84-89 Dana 35 c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 90-01 Chrysler 8.25 - 27 spline, 1.17" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 91-96 Chrysler 8.25 - 29 spline, 1.21" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 97-01 Dana 44 non c-clip - 30 spline, 1.31" diameter shafts, 8.5" ring gear, 2.75" axle tube - used 87-89 on some (not all) XJs equipped with towing package. Note: Dana 35 axles sometimes referred to as Dana 35C - The "C" does not stand for c-clip. It stands for "custom" meaning it came from Dana unfinished. Note: 8.25 axles - none of these axles were used on XJ's with ABS brakes. If you have ABS, you have the Dana 35. Without ABS you could have either axle. 8.25 axles are c-clip. Gearing 3.07 - used with 4.0L engine / manual transmission 3.31 - only available on older (pre87?) 2 door XJs with "Fuel Economy" package 3.55 - used with 4.0L engine / automatic transmission 3.73 - found in some XJs with the towing package 4.10 - used with 2.5L engine usually, and older XJs with the "Off-Highway Vehicle" package. Cooling Systems Open style - any normal cooling system used today. Opposite of closed style described below. Closed style - has no radiator cap and utilizes a pressure bottle. This style cooling system was used in 87-90 XJs. Airbags Drivers side airbag (mechanical) was added in 1995. Passenger side airbag was added in 1997. Airbags changed from mechanical to electronic in this year also. Production Numbers Number of XJ's built in given year: 1984 - 93,326 1985 - 120,328 1986 - 107,225 1987 - 139,295 1988 - 187,136 1989 - 207,216 1990 - 151,230 1991 - 151,578 1992 - 137,826 1993 - 144,961 1994 - 123,391 1995 - 120,234 1996 - 286,463 1997 - 258,958 1998 - 182,845 1999 - 186,116 2000 - 165,590 2001 - 120,454 Total = 2,884,172 Trim Levels 84 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief 85 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo 86 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo 87 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited 88 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport 89 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport 90 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport 91 - Base, Briarwood, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport 92 - Base, Briarwood, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport 93 - Base, Sport, Country 94 - SE, Sport, Country 95 - SE, Sport, Country 96 - SE, Sport, Country, Classic 97 - SE, Sport, Country 98 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited 99 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited 00 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited, Freedom 01 - Sport, Limited, 60th Anniversary Edition :p :p :p